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73 and Loaded With Friends on Facebook


WHEN Amy Waldman first signed on to Facebook last year and started to send joking messages about good grammar back and forth with a new 18-year-old friend, Ms. Waldman’s 19-year-old daughter, Talia, upbraided her for not revealing that she was actually in her 40s.

“You have to tell her you’re old,” she explained, “because on Facebook, that’s creepy.”

Ms. Waldman created a Facebook group to commemorate the incident: “over 40 is ‘facebook creepy.’”

It’s no secret that Facebook, which started as a networking playground for college kids, is graying, and that the percentage of active members who are over 25 years old and out of school has risen to some 40 percent of the overall population of about 45 million.

The influx raises questions. Will the loss of the campus sensibility and the youthful gestalt dilute the Facebook experience? And will the newcomers use the site — and change it? Or is it just another example of the fact that Americans age, but never seem to mature?

Joe Uppal, a University of Michigan undergraduate studying anthropology and philosophy, said the age wave “does kind of undermine the ties between Facebook and the college community.

“If everyone and anyone is able to go on Facebook, then belonging to it no longer indicates a college-student identity,” he added.

Similar sentiments have been heard whenever Facebook has expanded, said Matt Cohler, the company’s vice president for strategy and business operations. When the fledgling company first expanded beyond its roots at Harvard to include Yale, he said, “The people at Harvard complained about it and said, ‘Hey, this used to be just for us!’” The fretting subsides each time, he said, “as soon as they go back to using the program and realize this hasn’t done anything to deteriorate their experience.”

FOR the most part, in fact, the entry of millions of people with, you know, jobs and stuff, has been greeted with an epic “whatever,” said Clay Shirky, an adjunct professor in New York University’s interactive telecommunications program. “The average Facebook user isn’t going to care that people utterly unlike them are doing things they utterly don’t care about on some other corner of the site,” he said.

Facebook can avoid its “there goes the neighborhood moment,” he said, as long as it allows people to stay in their silos and gives them control over who can peek at their profiles. “As long as the individual users still feel their culture is preserved in their corner of Facebook, the growth won’t bother them.”

But the grown-ups are everywhere.

Take a look, for example, at Carl Kasell’s page. Mr. Kasell, the 73-year-old announcer on the NPR news program “Morning Edition,” sends up his own stodgy image on the weekly news quiz show “Wait Wait ... Don’t Tell Me!” and he now has 1,602 “friends.” Under personal information, Mr. Kasell gives his favorite quote as: “For NPR News, I’m Carl Kasell.”

Don’t worry, though, if you, gentle reader, don’t have a Facebook page of your own yet; Mr. Kasell isn’t that much hipper than you. He does not actually maintain the page himself. He reads the messages and comes up with responses, and Melody Joy Kramer, the 23-year-old associate producer for the show, enters them onto the page, in a cross-generational partnership.

Ms. Waldman — she of the creepy 40s — finds herself using Facebook in many of the ways that younger people do, except for the sexual cruising: she keeps up with old friends, makes new ones and uses the network to, well, network.

For instance, it turned out that Ms. Waldman’s age, 48, was just fine with the young woman, Lisa Szczepanski, with whom she traded grammar jokes. Ms. Szczepanski lives in Queens and Ms. Waldman lives in Milwaukee, but they have become as close as electrons allow. Ms. Waldman calls Ms. Szczepanski “My Facebook kid,” and got a Mother’s Day card from her last spring. (“Even my own kids don’t do that!” she joked.)

Ms. Waldman also used Facebook in her volunteer work. She leads 12-week family education programs through the National Alliance on Mental Illness, and last spring, she needed a speaker for one of the classes. She posted a request on a Facebook page about mental health, asking for “someone with a mental illness who has experienced breakdown and recovery to talk about their experience with the class.”

She soon heard from Megan Banner, a 20-year-old who had suffered a bout of mental illness in her high school years, recovered and now attends college in Milwaukee. Ms. Banner said she had been thinking about getting involved with advocacy for mental illness issues when she saw Ms. Waldman’s note, and “It was as if it was meant to be.”

They chatted over Facebook and met at a local Starbucks. Ms. Banner spoke to the class and, in a message via Facebook, recalled, “I had the crowd crying.” She said she believed that she “gave some people the hope to continue.”

Since then, Ms. Banner has engaged in more advocacy and speaking about mental health. The evening with Ms. Waldman’s class, she said, “just changed my whole life.”

Young and old will inevitably use the technology of Facebook differently, said Nicole Ellison, an assistant professor in the telecommunications, information studies and media department at Michigan State University.

Students define themselves through membership in many social networks in the real and virtual worlds, including classroom, dorms, extracurricular activities and hobbies. “There are fewer of those for adults,” Ms. Ellison said, who “will not be as interested in sharing their love of R.E.M.”

To some extent, a generation gap is already apparent in the Facebook population, said Mr. Shirky, of N.Y.U. Younger people will use it more naturally and differently than older folks, who for the most part will see a Facebook page as something like the dreaded Christmas letter, with its prosaic updates on one’s life events, and less the sense of “living your social life online, hammer and tongs,” the way younger people tend to.

That is only natural, he said, because “People our age are going to find uses for the tool that have to do with the maintenance of life already in process, rather than making one up out of whole cloth” — in part, he added, because “our social lives are more boring.” And that, he said, is only logical: “We’ve made the mistakes we’re going to make, God willing, and we’ve settled down.”

Some longtime observers of technology also wonder if Facebook will hold the interest of adults. Paul Saffo, a technology consultant who teaches at Stanford, said that Facebook’s rapidly multiplying programs and widgets might compromise the simple, clean design that made the site popular in the first place — which could be especially irritating to adults. “We want fewer steps, not more,” he said.

Worse, he said, is that social software means “we all get to be in fourth grade again,” renegotiating the rules of engagement with others. Do you respond to every friend request? Is it rude to cut someone away as part of a friend-list pruning? Once again, he said, “You have to worry about bruised feelings.”

Each new technology for communication, from the telephone to e-mail to Facebook “poking,” goes through a similar cycle, he said. “First we invent the technologies, then we figure out the social norms that tame the technology and allow it to occupy a nondistracting part of our life.” In other words, for Facebook to truly succeed, he said, it will have to recede.


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Enjoying Life Outside the Bubble




THE last time I talked to Kevin Landis was over lunch at Le Bernardin, the haute French restaurant in Manhattan, back in the fall of 2000. At the time, the air hadn’t yet gone out of the Internet bubble, and as manager of the tech-focused Firsthand family of mutual funds, Mr. Landis was feeling pretty good about the fact that assets under management had gone from $2 billion to more than $6 billion in a matter of months. In fact, he was more than a little cocky. (So was I — reporters don’t eat at Le Bernardin anymore, at least if their publisher is paying.)

So with the 16 percent rise in the Nasdaq this year, not to mention the meteoric rise of stocks like Google, which recently passed $600 a share for the first time, Mr. Landis is again feeling good. His flagship Technology Value fund is up 27 percent this year and has had an average annual return of 26 percent over the last five years. But he’s no longer so cocky — that got knocked out of Mr. Landis the hard way, when Firsthand suffered huge losses as the bubble finally burst early in the decade.

“You don’t want to ask for those numbers,” he jokes. “It’s still painful and it always will be, and not because my mom’s in the fund. It goes on your permanent record, like in school.” In 2001, the Technology Value fund dropped 44 percent, and then plunged 56 percent in 2002. Firsthand’s total assets under management, now about $750 million, are still a small fraction of what they were in 2000.

With the fund’s record of being up, down and up again, it seemed like a good time to ask Mr. Landis if tech investors are enjoying Web 2.0 or Bubble 2.0, as many commentators put it.

He says that while individual names like Research in Motion and Apple have begun to get pricey, the broader tech sector “has got plenty of room to keep running.” And unlike 2000, when the likes of Dr.Koop.com and Webvan went through the roof, no longer can just about any dot-com stock win investor enthusiasm. As for Google, he says “it’s pricey, but not hugely so.” Google is “a one-trick pony,” he says, referring to the fact that most of its revenue is from search-related advertising. “But it’s a hell of a pony.”

More established tech names like Intel and Cisco — both of which still trade well below their bubble-era peaks but are up more than 20 percent this year — have become mature, almost old-fashioned blue chips, with steady, if not exceptional returns, he says.

That other tech giant, Microsoft, has a cloudier future, he predicts. It’s flat for the year, and Mr. Landis says “they’re going to have a hard time generating much more growth.”

“Microsoft conquered the desktop and then the server room,” he adds, “but what the heck else is out there for them?”

Back in the fall of 2000, Mr. Landis was excited about the tax-cut plans of George W. Bush, then running for president, and less than enthralled by Al Gore. Today, though, he says he has a new appreciation for Mr. Gore, who just won the Nobel Peace Prize, and his green agenda, at least when it comes to alternative-energy companies that might gain from development of solar power.

One favorite is SunPower, which makes solar panels that are much more energy-efficient than their predecessors. SunPower’s shares have doubled this year, but Mr. Landis’s preferred way of playing it is by holding Cypress Semiconductor, which owns 53 percent of SunPower but trades at a more reasonable price-to-earnings multiple.

Another pick on this theme is Applied Materials, a semiconductor play. “These new solar panels are an offshoot of semiconductors,” he says.

OF course, this sector has enjoyed a spectacular run already, with First Solar now at $136, up from $30 at the beginning of the year. But Mr. Landis is hopeful. “Alternative energy isn’t where the Internet was in 1999,” he assures me, with a touch of the exuberance that made him a regular on CNBC years ago. “It’s where the Internet was in 1980.” Old ways die hard, I guess, and in Silicon Valley, where Mr. Landis grew up, the next big thing is always just around the corner.

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